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AtionSong wrote: a) Age "Invisioners" - Those who come up with the general idea of ages, including the general layout, environment (desert? garden?), and a general idea of the puzzles and tasks involved in "completing" the age. <...> b) Age "Revisors" - Revisors recieve an age concept from an invisioner, and sets upon improving. <...> c) Age "Contrivers" - Once an age has been Revised, a Designer takes the age and writes up a description: <...> d) Age "Designers" and Age "Depictors" - Once a Contriver has written up a description, a Designer and Depictor get to work. <...> e) Age "Reviewers" - Along with representatives from Cyan Worlds, this is the point where a created age is reviewed. Will it be enjoyable to play? Does it fit in with the storyline? Does it feel like an Uru age?
Uh, this sounds really bureaucratic to me. What if I want to design an age top to bottom? I mean, none of us are experts in everything, but I for one can model, texture, code and design, as well as write creatively. So I will need help when I want a second opinion or when I need troubleshooting help (which surely all of us will need from time to time, and for which I will need another Writer for), and I may want to build an age that someone else came up with the idea for, but to say that the people who actually build the ages are but one of 5 or 6(!) co-equal devisions of the Guild is great for the people in the other 4 divisions, but a little insulting to the people who put in the technical skills and the hours upon hours upon days upon weeks required to make Ages.
It seems to me that not everyone can be part of this guild. Since nearly everyone in Uru surely has some measurable creative skill, and most would love to be part of creating new ages, we can't realistically include everyone. It's sad, but building Uru ages is hard, hard work, and I don't think it's right to give the impression that everyone can be a part of it as long as they sign up to be an "Invisioner," which, forgive me, is something most of us can do in their sleep.
And another thing: IC, writing ages is often the work of one person. If a 3D designer wants some help crafting a history (which shouldn't be mandatory) or designing puzzles (which probably won't even exist in the first batch of ages), they can elect to work with interested parties (or what Tiran calls "Guild Cadets"), but I imagine that most ages will be the work of a single designer who has at least 70% of all of the required skills to envision, design, model and code a new age. The remaining 0-30% that they can't handle themselves, or would like help from more experienced people in those areas, they can solicit from others (guild members or otherwise) at their discretion.
I think that we should try to be inclusive, and remove bureaucratic barriers to Guild membership, but let's not go overboard and let everyone in. OOC, each member of the Guild of Writers must have at least a minimally appreciable technical skill to create MOUL ages, or else what's the point?
I think a lot of creative people, those who want to help out but don't have the technical ability (or inclination) to build ages, really want to be part of this Guild, but to be honest, it's not for them. Creative writers can join the Messengers or Greeters. 2D artists can join that cartographers. Dedicated Uru-ites who don't have an interest in OOC asset design can join the Maintainers. If we try to remember that "writer" doesn't mean in MOUL what it means elsewhere, then this isn't a hard concept to grasp.
People who want to create "storyline" can do so without guild membership. But of course, some 3D artists will need help. So people who want to provide ancillary creative skills to Writers can do so, but let's not make it an official part of the Guild (although credit should be given to anyone who helps make an age). Tiran has a good idea with his "Guild Cadet" concept, so officially, there should be "Writers" who can actually build ages, and then there can be people who are available to help the Writers, but those people should be one group, with one title, and honestly, if I want help with an Age, I don't care if the person who helps me is part of the Guild or not. Age building is a OOC thing, but IC, those people can be the people who produce writing and bookmaking materials. They are not part of the Guild, but are "aligned" with the Guild.
The DRC note in Kiral said that this was the guild with the most difficult prerequisites, so let's not pretend that it's easy to write ages and let everyone in. This may sound harsh, but seriously, if you wanna be in the Guild of Writers, you should actually be able to create ages, right?
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