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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 1:14 am 
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First, it is not Jahmen's responsibility to provide a solution just because he mentions the need, though he seems to have accepted the challenge. The best thing he could do, absent the understandable and complete lack of solution thus far in Uru's history, is organize a good team to make an attempt. That does not preclude numerous other groups from doing the same. No matter who you are, there are always people who could be organized to do it better than you could do it alone. Don't put this all on Jahmen's head. The best thing you all could do is offer constructive ideas, opinions and criticisms which, for example, look something like "I totally disagree but what do you think of my idea where ..."

I've found it valuable to take the point of view that no matter how many people disagree with you, whether it's one or one million, their weight of opinion is inconsequential when there are still eight billion (and counting) others you haven't heard from. The same goes for when you find people are agreeing with you. That's not always a good thing either. It gives one the proper scope to act with perspective in your dealings and responses. Those who are offensive and attacking, or those who are defensive and hurt, do not understand the sheer scope of opportunity available to anyone with a vision. You'll get more courage by finding your independence from opinion, but you still should listen and achieve balance. Yet even as I write these words, I too remain unwilling to go with my own little spark because if I stop to pet a kitty, there are some who will think I want to eat it - and I have enough to do already.

It is pointless and counterproductive to attack someone who takes the lead, trying to promote their solution. It is just as pointless and counterproductive to allow others to block your vision just because a few or a few million disagree. "Powergrab" is probably just a projection of jealousy when people see someone trying to use what is effectively a cup of water from their part of the ocean. Especially when you consider there is no power here to grab. None of us has any authority. We are what we make of ourselves. There could be twenty Guilds of Writers all competing for the so-called power and it would mean nothing except maybe some good competition. Do you really think it's all that unlikely in a world with a population of eight billion when the source is released? This is only part of what open source brings with it. If you all would like to establish your place with Uru in the open source market, I recommend a unified strength in numbers, talent and good attitude before someone who actually has an organized plan becomes more attractive to a larger world.

To the only people or groups who are destined to help find solutions in a community without inherent authority, go with what you believe, darn the torpedoes, etc, etc. I will use Zardoz's word again - because it's a good one - "persuade" us.

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The Guild of Messengers and then me had a go at it but
it did not last long. I was "politely" told to quit trying.

In those days many posts were deleted in parallel topics. :roll:

My trial:

At page # 4 (above link), you will see that Alahmnat was asking for help and
even today, he is still asking for it...


I really wish Jahmen & Alahmnat will be luckier than I was.


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