The Reminders From The Past
greydragon Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:49 pm — Post subject: The Guilds
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Remember, the guild system will change in the future. Feel free to talk to each other about what you would like to see in a guild system. Cyan has a plan for what it wants the system to be and we hope to show you that plan in the future.
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Shouldn't we be *WAITING* to organize, until Cyan shows us what their system is? Or are people putting cart before horse in their enthusiasm for the word GUILD?
greydragon Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:54 pm — Post subject:
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Examining these two statements, it seems Cyan is saying:
"Go ahead and plan, and make a Guild of *whatever*, but we'll be making our own system in the future, when we're ready."
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What assurances do any of us have that any effort put towards building a guild, of any structure, will mean anything when Cyan launches 'official' Guilds?
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Why are we being asked to do work, when something different will be used by the Cyan in the future?
Who's asking you? Guilds will be months / years off.
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Shouldn't we be *WAITING* to organize, until Cyan shows us what their system is? Or are people putting cart before horse in their enthusiasm for the word GUILD?
You tell me. Even if Cyan came out today and said stop organizing guilds people would still do it.
Cyan is just giving you a heads up that Cyan version of the guild system might be different then the one produced by the fans.
So proceed at your own risk.
This threads consensus ran into plod ahead explorers to make the guilds and try to get them to work with the idea Cyan might adopt them.
At this point, I think what Cyan will or won't do with the guilds is very up in the air due to financial reasons alone.
Arctic_Wagon I looked through what ya posted. What struck me about many of the attempts I found for getting over all communication system for the guilds to work together in place. Was that the purpose and reasons behind them to do so was not something any of them wanted to do. Basically, there was little in it for any of them to care enough to bother. Why share? For what? We do this, so you go do that! We have what we want! Then those fears someone might have to give something up.
What was needed I still believe, is something of mutual benefit for all of them to work at! Something that all of them want to do. Because those that don’t, will get left behind. It must be something that works so well, that to not have it is a huge disadvantage. Something that works because it serves the Guilds and serves the Uru explorers needs.
Something like that would be like having Cyan approval.
zardoz wrote
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Paramount to a successful Open Source Uru venture is being grounded in reality.
Bit Harsh You sort of come across as though everything is a contest.
Hmm... So your saying I can count on your support then. Eh?