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Whilyam wrote: Montgomery wrote: One must also consider canon. This is huge, becuase it is the depth, subtlety and internal consistancey of the canon that makes Uru (and all of Myst) the place the community enjoys exlporing.
Drama or not, I personally feel there needs to be some kind of filter to avoid material that simply does not belong in the Uru universe. There should be strict guidelines for how the process is handled, and the pool of individuals who make those decisions should be open to any who want to vote. The Guild of Maintainers may be the natural choice for this. Stop with the scary "material that doesn't belong in Uru" nonsense. There are two instances of material that doesn't belong in Uru and only two. 1: Material that is illegal/forbidden by the ToS (this covers pornography, malware, impersonation, and other areas). 2: Material that crashes users who meet the system requirements (this covers material that conflicts with other material, incomplete material, material that triggers another action that crashes the game, etc.). With all due respect, my friend, I believe you will find the majority of the explorer community disagrees with you, here. After all, the point of developing user-created content is to make the GAME (and therefore the Uru universe) better for the players, yes? Not for the sake of the developer. Just because you can implement a really terrific Pong game into the KI doesn't mean you should, BECAUSE the KI is a D'ni artifact with an established history. When Cyan handed the game to the fans they handed the game to all of the fans, not just that minority of fans with the capacity to alter it.
For a real-world example, think of Star Trek or Star Wars. There have been literally hundreds of fan novels published. What do you think would have happened if any of these books had, say, put a lush jungle on Tatooine, just because they were really good at describing jungles? Or decided the Enterprise was actually made of chocolate, because they had a really good plot device involving flying too close to the sun? It would have f*ked with the established canon, and caused an uproar. Now, I realize neither Lucas nor Paramount ever tried to set up a fan-based structure for voting on the content of fan novels, but then Lucas and Paramount never turned their universes over to the fans due to lack of resources.
Whilyam wrote: Canon is subjective, open to interpretation, and able to be disregarded by anyone, including Cyan. It is a useless criteria, plain and simple and it has no place in a workable code/content approval process. No, sir:RAWA wrote: A FEW DISCLAIMERS:
- These guidelines are a work in progress. While attempts have been made to have them be as complete and accurate as possible, we reserve the right to alter, amend, change, update, fold, spindle, and/or mutilate them at any time. We also reserve the right to add other verbs to that list at our sole discretion.
- You (collectively) are now part of the creation process, and I have it on good authority that "with great power comes great responsibility." Specifically, in this case, that means that since we're going to be working out these kinds of details as we go along, even more patience, flexibility, and understanding is going to be needed on all levels from everyone involved.
- Past performance is no guarantee of future results.
- Void where prohibited.
- Objects in mirror may be closer than they appear.
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Without further ado...
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The Five Rules of Writing, in their most basic form:
1 - Writers must live within the D'ni limitations of Writing.
2 - Writers must not break continuity with previously released D'ni information.
3 - Writers must not reveal "new" information about characters, places, groups, etc. used by Cyan.
4 - Writers must limit "new" information about D'ni society to specific, smaller groups within D'ni.
5 - Writers must not use the intellectual property of others.
Notes:
1) Except for Rule #5, these rules mainly focus on attempting to minimize continuity issues, so, when an Age is submitted for approval, enforcing these rules will primarily be the responsibility of the Guild of Archivists. You can think of theses duties of the Guild of Archivists as providing "information quality control" for the Ages.
2) Duties for the other Guilds will be spelled out as we move forward.
3) These rules are specifically intended to be guidelines for Ages and/or Storylines which are intended to be considered "official" (i.e. "canon"), where continuity is a prime concern. We also intend to provide separate guidelines for Ages and/or Storylines that which are intended to be considered "fictional" within the context of the Cavern. Those guidelines will be much less restrictive because continuity in those cases will be less of a concern. So if you want to tell a story that these rules do not allow (e.g. the story of Ti'ana between the Book of Ti'ana and the Book of Atrus), you'll need to abide by those guidelines when they become available.
----------------- The Five Rules of Writing, further details.
1 – The Writers do not have Yeesha's special, innate abilities. They have to live within the limitations of the traditional D'ni Writers.
2 – The members of the Guild of Archivists need to have a decent grasp of released D'ni information, so that they can have working knowledge of what will contradict established D'ni information.
Note: Also included under "contradictions" are issues that have been intentionally left open for debate by Cyan. A Writer's storyline must not attempt to definitively confirm one side or the other of those issues.
3 – Characters, places, groups, etc. that have appeared in Cyan's games, novels, etc. can be mentioned or used, but Writers must not reveal any new information about those characters, places, groups, etc., where "new information" is defined as information that would in some way change what is known about the character, place, or group.
For example, one can "find" an old D'ni Age that was once visited by Veovis (the fact that Veovis may have visited that Age doesn't constitute any significant "new" information about Veovis, since it is very likely that he visited countless Ages, but they can't "find" an Age that was owned by Veovis or Written by Veovis (those kinds of things would be releasing new information about Veovis.) The main City in the Cavern is also included in this. Areas that have been in Cyan's games or novels can not be changed. If one wants to reveal ("restore") a new area in the Cavern, it must be self-contained and only accessible via the Nexus (e.g. the Great Tree Pub) or via another Age (e.g. the Uran Silo linked to from Er'cana).
An exception of a place that was used by Cyan but can have "new" information revealed: specific D'ni neighborhoods. They can be considered as self-contained places. New information can be revealed about a Writer's neighborhood as long as it doesn't affect other neighborhoods or the main Cavern as a whole.
In short, the rule of thumb for determining what should be allowed is, "How likely is it that this new information will cause a contradiction with information released by Cyan or other Writers in the future?" If it's likely to cause a contradiction, then it is not allowed.
4 – The Writers should come at this with the mindset that they're expanding knowledge of the D'ni Universe by revealing new facets of a multi-faceted civilization, rather than revealing new information about the D'ni society as a whole. That is to say that any new information one reveals about the D'ni or its history should be specific to a particular (previously unknown) group within D'ni, so that the likelihood of future contradictions by Cyan (or other Writers for that matter) is minimized as much as possible.
For example, one could reveal that there was a group within D'ni that only ate a certain broccoli-like vegetable found in one of their Ages. Since this "revelation" is limited to one group, it doesn't affect the whole of D'ni society and is therefore unlikely to be contradicted by other stories in the future. Saying that all of the D'ni only ate certain broccoli-like vegetables is not allowed, as it is something that is very likely to be contradicted (in this specific example, of course, it already has been).
5 – This includes references to trademarks, copyrights, etc. Writers cannot write an Age where their character meets Captain Kirk, their Age cannot contain a Coca-Cola machine, etc. Everything in their Age or mentioned in their storyline must be their own work.
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Examples:
- Writer wants to create a storyline where Gehn escaped his prison.
Verdict: Denied. This would violate Rule #2 (continuity issue: as far as has been revealed by Cyan, Gehn never escaped his prison) and Rule #3 (attempts to reveal "new" information about a character used in Cyan games and novels.)
- Writer wants to "find" an Age that Gehn had visited prior to the events of Riven.
Verdict: Approved. Does not reveal "new" information about Gehn, or contradict previously released information about Gehn.
- Writer wants to "Write" a link to a specific instance of Myst Island.
Verdict: Denied. This would violate Rule #1 (player Writers do not have Yeesha's special abilities to be able to write to specific instances of an Age.)
- Writer wants to "find" a link to another instance of Myst Island.
Verdict: Denied. This would violate Rule #2 (continuity issue: there are no known links to other instances of Myst Island) and Rule #3 (by revealing "new" information about a place used in Cyan games and novels).
- Writer wants to "find" more information about the Guild of Illusionists.
Verdict: Denied. This would violate Rule #3 (by revealing "new" information about a group used in Cyan games and novels).
- Writer wants to "find" information about the Guild of Reptile Trainers.
Verdict: Approved. This does not reveal new information about a group used in the Cyan games and novels.
Note: only "minor" guilds are allowed. It cannot be claimed that the Guild of Reptile Trainers was one of the 18 Major Guilds at any point in D'ni history, as the 18 Major Guilds are covered under the groups that have been used in Cyan games and novels. It is also something that would likely be contradicted in the future.
- Writer wants to "restore" a new area in the D'ni city itself.
Verdict: Denied. This would violate Rule #3 (by revealing "new" information about a place used in Cyan games and novels).
- Writer wants to "restore" a new area in the D'ni city, but it is self-contained and only available via the Nexus.
Verdict: Approved. The key to this being "self-contained," so it doesn't cause any continuity problems with the City, neighborhoods, etc. as it has been shown in Uru.
While the above is about storylines, it does make pretty clear Cyan's stance on canon. The KI is a D'ni artifact, and a fan can't add a screw-driver and a pair tweezers to it just because they want to. If you wish to create an Age full of flying bunnies and floating hearts there will be no objections, but you may find the fan-base "votes with their feet" when nobody visits it. However, if you want to "modify" existing Uru canon, it will be the function (according to Cyan's earlier-published intentions) of an established fan-based organization to reject such proposals that violate canon according to the rules provided by Cyan. It may be that Cyan will allow explorer "engineers" to tinker with the lattice and the KI dispenser hardware to the extent that certain additional features are added or revealed in future KIs. "May" be. That is up to them. But there will be a process for fans to submit such proposals to Cyan to accept or reject, and if Cyan carries through with their earlier ideas about the Guilds, the GoMa will be their clerks in that paper chase.
Nobody is trying to stifle creativity, create drama, or weild phenomenal cosmic power (least of all the GoMa). But the foundation of the Guild of Maintainers is to make the Uru experience as safe and enjoyable for those who visit it as it is in our power (granted by Cyan) to make it. And we're pretty passionate about that.
Thanks for reading.
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Montgomery - Maintainer Grand Master of Inspections (ret.)
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