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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:39 am 
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[spoiler=He is here]Dr. Watson spent the last few years with Phil.[/spoiler]

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So, mutliple people coming back??

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Awesome! :D

Of course, I assume that those are recent photos?? (Man, I am such a pessimist!!)

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[spoiler=MMmmmmmmm]MMmmmmmmm.... Watson.[/spoiler]

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Damm. I missed this. Stupid Work :lol:

Though seams to be a good time for the Australians ;)

did he said something ?


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It's 6pm here :D

And as for what he said, cross posted from Blue Arrow at UO

Warning. MASSIVE SPOILER!!!!!!

[spoiler]Atrus is at Releeshan and is alive[/spoiler]

Again, I can't verify the veracity of these statements :P. I hope someone can come do it for me??

*Please??!!*

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I wasn't there. I don't know if it's true. But there are screenshots etc.

[spoiler=But if it is right, it seems so.][spoiler=CAUTION! BIG SPOILER]ATRUS IS IN RELEESHAHN AND ALIVE (see source above)[/spoiler][/spoiler]

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Chatlog, anyone?

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Chatlog was posted now in the source mentioned above.

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now we just have to find out why this episode is called Deceptions...


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Qvist wrote:
I wasn't there. I don't know if it's true. But there are screenshots etc.


I was there, at the end of the conversation, thanks to your initial post in this thread (I linked in to check to see if Dr. Watson was still around). It gave me the opportunity to ask that interesting question. I was somewhat surprised when he actually answered it!

Thanks for the heads up!


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Chatlog was posted now in the source mentioned above.

Thanks, I found it. :)

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Kung Fu Dancer wrote:
now we just have to find out why this episode is called Deceptions...


It is not plural, i.e. the name of the episode is "Deception!". I'm not trying to make a grammar/spelling correction here. I'm just pointing out the difference because if it was plural then we would be looking for multiple deceptions.

Anyway, yes, it will be interesting to find that out. Hopefully we will find that out before the episode is over!

But, in my opinion I don't think it has anything to do with Phil, Engberg or Dr. Watson, i.e. they are not knowingly involved in the deception, whatever it is. However, I do not have any hard facts to base that on. It's purely based on what I perceive of their character over the years, especially that of Dr. Watson.

EDIT to try to explain the reason behind what some might consider a pedantic response.


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Here's a re-edited chatlog of the visit referenced above (posted by BlueArrow at http://www.uruobsession.com/forum/index.php?s=4aad1c0e33c341a95dceb8af6f9a242d&act=Attach&type=post&id=533899. I've moved questions next to their answers, and put into single paragraphs several lines of chat. I prepared it for the The Meeting Place website, but thought people here might also find it useful.

There are some interesting snippets of information.

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(09/11 07:21:52)
Skotte: may i ask, in what capacity you return to us?
Dr. Watson: Michael Engberg came to find me. And find me he did. As for what I will do, that remains to be seen, really.
Skotte: help with the bahro situation?
Grieyls: How is Engberg by the way? Is he ok?
Dr. Watson: Yes, I believe he is.
Grieyls: Oh that's good to hear
IBnetweasel: Yes...we were concerned about Engberg after the events concerning his daughter...it was sad
Dr. Watson: Very sad, indeed. There is a great deal of sadness.

BlueArrow: What is your current relationship with Mr. Henderson lately?
Dr. Watson: Ah. I have spent a great deal of time with Phil Henderson these last few years.
Grieyls: That so, what have you two been up to?
Dr. Watson: That's a long story, Greiyls.
BlueArrow: Do you have any clue who "he" is that phend keeps mentioning?
Dr. Watson: I'd hazard to guess the "he" was likely "me"
Dr. Watson laughs.

Skotte: here's an interesting question for you. are you aware of any ages which the D'ni have never set foot in?
Dr. Watson: There are many, Skotte. More Ages that they haven't been to than that they have.

Timbo: Have you been aware of what's been going on in the cavern? Events like Wheely's death? Or have you been... out of touch?
Dr. Watson: I was not aware until Michael came. We've had our own struggles to deal with.
Grieyls: What sort of struggles?
Dr. Watson: Most recently, the Bahro conflict, Grieyls. Their conflict spans hundreds of Ages.
Timbo: Are we in any danger down here?
Dr. Watson: For now, we are protected here. That may not always be the case
Grieyls: Is one faction of the Bahro watching over us?
Meg: I remember feeling crushed a few years back, as I'm sure you guys felt too. Now here we all are again :D
Dr. Watson: Indeed, Meg. I was devastated. But that's life, I suppose. You try to deal with whatever comes up and move on.

Skotte: Some have suggested the new guilds may be a vehicle for change. strength. Others have suggested the new guilds are DRC hubris. What do you think of the matter, Mr Watson?
Dr. Watson: Guilds are fine, in and of themselves. They provided D'ni with stability to last for nearly 10,000 years here in the Cavern... And who knows how many thousands of years before that. It all just depends on the people involved. (sorry, just choosing my words carefully.)

Grieyls: Dr Watson, can you shed any light on this colour business Phil has been going on about?
Dr. Watson: Colour business? What's he been saying?
Grieyls: Not sure myself, something about the colour blue
Meg: well … phil has been sounding sort of...stoned. He says 'Man' a lot.
Prime: It's difficult to describe what Phil has been saying...he is still very....incoherent.
Dr. Watson: Hmm, I'm not sure what he's referring to.
zreyasa: he has been speaking tangentially....very cryptic....almost not lucid - going on about the color blue...
Prime: Phil’s mind seems to be...overwhelmed...like he knows something important but can't properly articulate it.
Dr. Watson: Phil is Phil. His time alone with the Bahro haven't helped his social skills. But that may be why they get along so well.
D'ja vu: maybe we just need to learn how to listen better for Phil's comments to make sense
Dr. Watson: That may be true, D'ja vu.

D'ja vu: yeah, the bahro were all over the library and alley..it was wild
Dr. Watson: They are still around. You get used to it after a while.

Prime: Doctor...are you planning to rejoin the DRC...your experience, training, and insight would be invaluable.
Dr. Watson: I have a great deal to think about on that subject, Prime. I have made no decisions or commitments yet.

Skotte: some people have come to the interesting observation that "bahro" is a word which simply means "beast people", so there is some initiative to start calling them a more decent respectable name "Vakhro". linking people.
Timbo: It's the name the D'ni gave them. I assume that's why Yeesha refers to them as 'the least'. More polite
Skotte: From an academic standpoint, Dr watson, what do you think of this? Speaking as one of the world's foremost authorities and all
Dr. Watson: They are not offended by "Bahro".

zreyasa: they understand our language, Dr. Watson?
Dr. Watson: It varies by individual.
Grieyls: But by that you mean some of them do understand us, yes?
Dr. Watson: They pick up on emotion very well, though.
Grieyls: That's a handy thing to know
Skotte: ahh, so it is the intent of the words, not the ancient sublime meaning the words may have had previously
BlueArrow: Hmmm so if you know you’re scared, they can tell
Dr. Watson: Some of them seem to understand some words very well, others not so much.
Meg: maybe they're a little bit telepathic? empaths?
Timbo: You've communicated with them, then, Doctor?
Dr. Watson: I have tried with varying degrees of success, yes, Timbo. Yeesha has no problem communicating with them. I still have a hard time.
Grieyls: So you've seen Yeesha recently?
Dr. Watson: I have spent quite a bit of time with Yeesha over the years. When she's been available.
Timbo: How is Yeesha involved in the conflict?
Dr. Watson: She has been to many of the Ages that are much more involved in the conflict.

Prime: We have been told the bahro war has spilled over into releeshan...are the d'ni ok?
Dr. Watson: For the moment, yes, Prime.
Timbo: You've been to Releeshan too, then? Wow.
Dr. Watson: Indeed.
Prime: And what is the word on Noloben...it is my understanding that is the bahro home age....so I can't imagine the state it is in....
Dr. Watson: Noloben? It is one of many Ages the Bahro have lived in for who knows how long. I wouldn't say it's their "home Age", though that's always a possibility. It is one of the Ages with the most heavy fighting, though. Some of them consider Noloben their home, just as some consider this their home, or any of thousands of Ages, for that matter.

Grieyls: Do you know what the issue is that they fight over?
Dr. Watson: Such a long story. The short version is that they were recently given the ability to choose their own destinies. And different groups of them are making different choices with their newly-found freedom.
Prime: Resources...theology...politics....economics.....some combination of the above......I hope it's not something insane like some doctrine of inherent superiority.
zreyasa: Wars are about power and control, that can manifest in many ways.
Skotte: to put it in perspective we can all appreciate: the holy land in Jerusalem is a tiny strip of sand. Would you fight over that when there's a whole planet to fight over? Subtle specific reasons.
D'ja vu: Ah. And the different choices are causing strife.
Prime: I'm surprised they don't want our help though....if there is one sad fact history teaches us...it's that humans excel in war. Maybe they just have sense enough to realize this thing will end one day.
Dr. Watson: Indeed. Some of them are intent on revenge and destruction. Unfortunately, they have the potential for unbelievable destruction when they put their minds to it.
Grieyls: That is not good to hear, hope they come to their senses
Dr. Watson: I do, too.

J'on: Dr. Watson, Phil mentioned that he has visited Releeshan, have you been there also? If so, have you seen Atrus?
Dr. Watson: Yes to both questions, J'on.
J'on: Do, you think there is any chance Atrus will ever visit the cavern?
Dr. Watson: Hmm... there's always a chance, though it would be a very small one.
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"now we just have to find out why this episode is called Deceptions..."

It is not plural, i.e. the name of the episode is "Deception!".


I wuv pedants. :lol:


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I've got first dibs on a front row seat to watch the confrontation between Watson and Cate! :D

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