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Joined: Tue May 09, 2006 1:17 am Posts: 1702 Location: Spokane, WA
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EowynCarter wrote: BUT if that happens, then said guild need to work together, be totally open (no more secret forum / lengthy inscription forms..) Someone outside a guild need to have the same chance to have his work in game. No denning him because he is not in a guild / don't get on well with the guild mater or whatever.
The guilds are here to serve and help the community, not rule it !
Unless I completely missed out on some explosion of drama somewhere (which is entirely possible... I have been rather pre-occupied with other efforts lately), to my knowledge every Guild has been operated in exactly the way you've specified. They all have an open forum and an open enrollment policy where anyone can join. To a remarkable degree, the Guilds were working together to establish a structure for UCC in MORE before the project was cancelled due to lack of resources. There were – and to my knowledge still aren't – any rules stating that you had to be a Guild member to get something into the game. In MORE, your content had to be approved by the Guilds, because Cyan said that was the condition for getting your stuff into the game, and the conditions for approval that were laid out had little to do with quality, and almost entirely to do with stability, both technically and canonically (my Guild, the GoA, would have overseen the canon integration). But you didn't have to be a Guild member to get that approval (or even gain access to the tools and resources necessary to build content that would eventually need approval), and this is something that was stated pretty clearly at the outset.
In this open-source project, if the Guilds co-manage a shard, I see little reason why that concept would need to be abandoned – there are people who are going to want to continue the story of D'ni and the story of Uru in as official a way as possible, and a Guild-overseen shard seems like the most likely place to do so, given Cyan's stated confidence in our ability to maintain an extended universe of canon. However, in this open-source model, I see no reason why the Guild-managed shard would be the only place you could add your content. If your content or story is turned down for whatever reason by the Guild-managed shard, there are sure to be other places you can showcase it, and that's totally fine (provided your content doesn't crash the shard, which may be a likely reason why it would be rejected by the Guilds ).
I fully agree with you, the Guilds serve the community, not t'other way around, and that's something that I think this plan calls for: a shard that would service the needs and/or desires of at least a portion of the community by creating a safe, likely canon-friendly shard for those who want to participate in it. Since the entire Uru project is open-source now, there's nothing stopping you from branching or forking the code and doing your own thing with it, and it isn't the intention of anybody in this thread to try to enforce such ridiculous restrictions.
One final thing to keep in mind: the Guilds are not some officious third-party or external entity bent on dominating Uru or the community. The Guilds are entirely made up of members of this community, volunteering their time and effort to try and build a better Uru together with – and for – everyone. They provide a framework for discussion, participation, and contribution aimed at making it as easy as possible to get involved, and are open to everyone. Nobody is off scheming or laying out mandates in a secret forum, and last I checked, nobody (except possibly the GoG, for what I hope are obvious PR reasons) has anything even approaching a long list of requirements for membership. Heck, at the GoA, you don't even have to be a Guild member unless you want to do something crazy like manage a Guild project... even non-members can contribute to the Archive there (you have to be a forum member, but that's a spam- and defacement-combatting move, not an exclusionary tactic).
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