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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:40 pm 
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Did anyone see this?

http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/30/11331 ... buntu-bash


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:38 am 
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Yeah. Now the question is why?

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Welcome to 2016, where we still do not declare the return type of main().

Honestly I'm not that excited... I'm on a Mac with Windows installed on a second partition and under VirtualBox. I don't *need* Windows to run Ubuntu, because I already have a native Unix system. And all my "Unix on Windows" needs (i. e. the file command) are satisfied by Cygwin.

What I am looking forward to are the promised improvements to the Windows console. Perhaps they will finally properly support encodings that are not a "normal" codepage, like UTF-8.

I'm also curious how they are going to distribute all the GNU/GPL software. They said they would put the Ubuntu image on the Windows Store, which I think currently enforces some kind of DRM even for free apps. I'm no lawyer or GPL expert, but I'm fairly certain that it disallows distribution restrictions like this.

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Tomala wrote:
Yeah. Now the question is why?

To use Wine to run older games. :D

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 4:11 pm 
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Why? To attract developers with multi-platform support.

Stephen Shankland, CNET wrote:
Bash is a powerful and popular option. Embracing it shows that Microsoft isn't afraid of competitive threats and that it's willing to pair its own software with the best of what others have to offer. The company's own programmers will have to prove their worth in a world where Windows no longer dominates.

That's why Microsoft has brought its Office software to Apple iPhones and iPads and to phones and tablets powered by Android. That's why it's embracing Web technologies that make browsers powerful enough to run apps that otherwise might be written for Windows. And that's why, in another move to court developers, Microsoft announced that its highly regarded Visual C++ programming tools can now build programs to run on Linux.

"Developers are the lifeblood of any platform and crucial to Microsoft's future," Geoff Blaber, an analyst at CCS Insight, said after Microsoft's conference. "Build 2016 may not capture consumer attention, but it lays the foundations for greater innovation down the road."
http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/unthinkable-linux-bash-alliance-shows-microsoft-cares-about-you/

That said, the most humorous comment I've read is below this article:
http://www.hanselman.com/blog/Developer ... ows10.aspx
Chris Nelson wrote:
Why this chimera? Is PowerShell and cmd.exe so bad that Microsoft had to port a real CLI over? My Windows users don't want to run Linux, my Linux users don't want to run Windows and my Mac users are down at the coffee shop.

For the announcement about Visual C++ for Linux Development, see this:
https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/vcblog ... velopment/

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cpt-jericho wrote:
Tomala wrote:
Yeah. Now the question is why?

To use Wine to run older games. :D


What games? And why use WINE? Under Windows?

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Why? To attract developers with multi-platform support.


Yeah they say that, but I'm not convinced. Doesn't surprise me that they'd pick Ubuntu though, people already proclaim that as the Windows of Linux distros. :P

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That's literally just an entire Ubuntu installation sitting in a folder somewhere. Notice when they did ls that it returned Ubuntu's ENTIRE file structure? What a waste of space. This isn't BASH running in Windows, this is just an Ubuntu VM.

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