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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:40 am 
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I haven't seen a thread discussing this yet, so I hope I'm not repeating anything.

As I'm sure you all know Cyan released some of the Uru design documents as part of the M25 Kickstarter. In reading these some new information about not only the Ages but also some characters is revealed. Specifically, I'm thinking about Kadish here.

From Uru we know he's a bit of an egotistical mean person/people, however, what is revealed in the Kadish Tolesa design doc is that...



This is a fascinating look into Kadish as a character, and I think really changes the way you look at his Age when exploring it.

However, as much of this information doesn't appear in-game, I wonder if it can be considered official canon?

Personally I think it can as this was clearly Cyan's intentions for the character, even if they never did implement it into Uru before it closed (it's possible this info could have been revealed at a later date had Uru continued).

Something like the Gate Puzzle (also in the Kadish doc) can't be considered canon as it's something we should be able to physically see in-game, but it was never implemented. However, this info about Kadish himself can be seen as simply new information that was not previously revealed and thus can be considered canonical.

What do you guys think? As I reckon I think it makes Kadish all the more interesting but I'm keen to hear other's thoughts.

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I agree: all this (Teledahn, Sharper, Kresh/D'ni relations!) is too good to neglect. Unless something's been contradicted or obviously changed, I'd want to put it in the same category as background information from any other source.

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That definitely sounds like the type of character, yes, so I'd say it's quite likely. Plus I like the idea.
With that said, "canon" is a dangerous word subject to interpretation; unless someone from Cyan staff validates the idea I'd avoid the word entirely for fear of being whipped :)

Interestingly enough Teledahn's design doc also depicts Sharper as a really bad guy, while in Uru his journals don't make him look that bad (IIRC).

Have you read the Ahnonay one too ? (my favourite). Specifically...


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Deleted or unused scenes in film are not canon, even when fully rendered and scored. The same is likely true here.

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See also viewtopic.php?f=2&t=29048 for discussion ;-)

The Kadish story sounds nice. But there are also fan theories that Kadish thought he was the Grower, was revived by Yeesha and actually killed Calam (who is mentioned in Myst V). The reason for this speculation is the mysterious empty vault that you can link to.

So it could also very well be that Cyan later on changed the backstory of Kadish to become more part of the Bahro/Yeesha storyline. But that's all very much speculation.

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Bah, in my canon, Bahros are Hello Kitty fans, because it fits my interpretation of the word "canon" :shrug: Sarcasm aside, I don't care for canon, the word itself doesn't make any sense.

Personally the time-travel theory is the most inventive I heard, and it matches with my opinion of what is possible (aka the annoying "suspension of disbelief"). Good for me.


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@Tweek, hmm, good point. Still the question remains, what's the story behind the alternate vault? Especially since it was slightly changed between URU:CC and MOUL (the torn scraps of paper IIRC) it has got be something important.

And the thought that we might never find out what it was all about, is almost unbearable. :lol:

I do hope Cyan will eventually bring closure to some of these loose ends, preferably in a new game. ("Cautious optimism")

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